Dr Anurag’s claims on Ek Granth defective to the core, says Dr Karminder

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| Opinion | 6 Dec 2016 Asia Samachar |

Dr Anurag Singh (left) and Dr Karminder Singh – PHOTO / FACEBOOK / ASIA SAMACHAR

Dr Karminder Singh, a senior officer in the Malaysian civil service and a keen Sikhi parcharak, shares with Asia Samachar his rebutal to the arguments presented by Dr Anurag Singh in an article where he claims that there was no concept of Ek Granth Ek Panth in Sikhism.

Anurag, the director of Shiromani Gurdwara Parbhandak’s (SGPC) Sikh Itihas Board, must be referring to the ‘Ek Granth, Ek Panth, Ek Maryada’ slogan that is being championed by a number of Sikh organisations in Malaysia.

The slogan is gaining currency as more and more gurdwaras in the country are adopting it as part of their leadership ethos.

Next, Karminder has been invited by the Sikh youth of Rawang, Selangor, to make a presentation on the Ek Granth concept at Gurdwara Sahib Rawang on Tuesday (13 Dec 2016).

In his plain speaking style, Karminder refutes the assertions made by Anurag in his article entitled ‘There is no concept of Ek Granth Ek Panth in Sikhism’.

By Karminder Singh

Dr Anurag’s claims are defective to the core.

1. The concept of Ek Granth Ek Panth is rooted philosophically in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib (SGGS) on page 646:

ਇਕਾ ਬਾਣੀ ਇਕੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਇਕੋ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥

Eka Banee Ek Gur Eko Shabad Vichaar (SGGS, p646)

2. Our Guru is Shabad. There is ONLY ONE Granth in the entire spiritual universe that has SHABAD located within it, and that is the SGGS. This is precisely what is meant by EK GRANTH of Sikhi.
3. Pothi Parmeshar Ka Thaan is in support of EK GRANTH.  The ONE Pothi is indeed the precursor to the ONE GRANTH which is the SGGS now.  The Shabd of the Parmesar that was located within the ONE POTHI during Guru Arjun Ji’s time was affirmed by Guru Gobind Singh Ji in the ONE GRANTH which is the SGGS.

ਪੋਥੀ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਕਾ ਥਾਨੁ ॥

Pothi Parmeshar Ka Thaan (SGGS, p1226)

4.  The commandment of Guru Arjun ji, POTHI PARMESAR KA THAAN, was is essence the ONE and same philosophically and spiritually with the one given by Guru Gobind Singh ji in the form GURU MANIYO GRANTH.  In this sense then, the commandment of the fifth guru too is a precursor to the one issued by Guru Gobind Singh in 1708.
5. There is no concept of the so called “parmanic banee” within the SGGS.  It may exist outside the SGGS. Within the SGGS, there is mention only of SACHEE  Banee which is contrasted with Kachee Banee. All banee not contained within our Satgur SGGS is Kachee Banee as stated by Guru Amardas ji.  Satgur Bina Hor Kachee Hai Banee.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਬਿਨਾ ਹੋਰ ਕਚੀ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ॥

Satgur Bina Hor Kachee Hai Banee. (SGGS, p920)
6. The only people who oppose the ONE GRANTH position is those who want to smuggle in a second or perhaps third Granth into the Sikh psyche. These granths are full of  charitars and Nataks, but NO SHABD GURU in it at all. The SHABAD is ONLY in the SGGS.
6. Anurag’s contention that Dasam Granth (DG) is composed by Guru Gobind Singh is not accepted by the Panth. It is the subject of debate ever since it appeared in the scene as Bachittar Natak some 80 years after Guru Gobind Singh. It will remain controversial forever.
7. To contend that “there is no concept of Ek Granth” as related to the SGGS because it was referred to as POTHI Sahib but that “on the contrary the word Granth is used in all the manuscripts of Dasam Granth” is to stretch the imagination into non-existent concepts.  There is no such thing as a “Dasam Granth” beyond a collection of disputed writings put together. A hodge podge of diverse rachnas lifted from the  Puranas and elsewhere and binded as one volume does not make a Granth. There is also no such thing as a “DASAM” too because there is no ninth or eight or seventh. The word DASAM is used to fool Sikhs into believing that it is the work of our the tenth Guru. Numerically, for Sikhs, there is no Granth beyond the ONE and ONLY AAD (first).
8. To argue that Ragis have been singing Bhai Gurdas and Bhai Nand Lal ji as evidence of the existence of a second or third Granth in Sikhi is fallacious. It is the SIkh Reht Maryada (SRM) that allows the singing of these two compositions – as EXPLANATORY compositions of SGGS ji. The Granth for Sikhs  still remains ONE. The explanatory rachnas recognized by the SRM for Kirtan purposes are two – Bhai Gurdas and Bhai Nand Lal. None of them wrote any Granth of their own. So stop using their Kabits and Ghazals to fool Sikhs that they have composed Granths.
9. The verse of Guru Ramdas ji quoted by Anurag: “Bani Guru, Guru Hai Bani, Vich Bani Amrit Sarey” is clear evidence that ONLY the Bani of SGGS is the spiritual be all and end all (SAREY) for a Sikh.

ਬਾਣੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਬਾਣੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਬਾਣੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਸਾਰੇ ॥

Bani Guru, Guru Hai Bani, Vich Bani Amrit Sarey (SGGS, p982)
10. To say that the “Four Vedas of the Sanatan Dharma were replaced by the Sikh Gurus with four Canonised Scriptures of the Sikhs: Guru Granth Sahib, Dasam Granth, Works of Bhai Gurdas and Works of Bhai Nand Lal,“ is utter nonsense. Which Guru said this and where? The SGGS is a ONE and ONLY novel, innovative, new, original scripture that is DHUR KEE BANEE or JAISEE MEIN AVEY KHASAM KEE BANEE. The SGGS has nothing whatsoever to do with any vedas – they are rejected by our Gurus. The writings of Bhai Nand Lal or Bhai Gurdas Ji are in similar vein.

ਜੈਸੀ ਮੈ ਆਵੈ ਖਸਮ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਤੈਸੜਾ ਕਰੀ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਵੇ ਲਾਲੋ ॥

Jaisee Mein Avey Khasam Kee Banee (SGGS, p722)

11. Anurag writes derogatory language when he condemns believers of the EK SGGS as  “these Heretics are Faithless, Faceless, Heartless and Apostates, who do not know a single language of either Guru Granth Sahib or Dasam Granth or Works of Bhai Gurdas and Bhai Nand Lal. Reject them publicly, avoid them locally and confront them globally.” Such foul language is unbecoming of anyone who wants to be taken seriously. Debased language lessens the worth of arguments (even if concocted and made up). Stop calling us names and get on with making your points, if you have any left.

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8 COMMENTS

  1. The Actions taken on Bhai Gurbaksh Singh kala Afghana and Sarabjit Singh Dhunda and Prof Darshan Singh ragi are all clearly politically motivated and taken by Jathedars who have ZERO CREDIBILITY. Not a single line in Kala Afghans 10 massive BOOKS has been nullified by any jaathedar…much less disproved by hsi OPEN CHALLENGE to quote FIVE Shabads form SGGS as he has Done for each and every claim he makes in his 10 books. Dr Anuraag has been found to claim a Stone Printed manuscript as Handwritten by GGS…and also claim a DAS GRANTHI POTHI as DSM GRANTH….both false claims on his FB Page. Show even one instance where the PANTH shows RESPECT to these politically bought Jathedars ?? Not one respect. ALL of them travel in Punjab with ZED SECURITY armed gun men, and police protection. What does that show…they are sold out gdaars…..

  2. It’s easy to pick people’s mistake then our own …. forget about everything how can u preach when u follow kala afghana and dhundda ideology which is been black listed from the Sikh world … then following that which category u fall … sorry dass don’t like to interfere but can’t keep quiet when u are fooling innocent Sikhs …

  3. Evidence has been produced in photos by Sr Gurcharan Singh that Anurog practices Brahmanism.His wife observes karva Chauth, His son in law uses tkka on his fore head under his turban, his daughter has been displaying herself with shaved legs.

    So the madness of four books is direct copy from brhamanism that anurag practices.He was a product of an arya samaj school, including it has come to light, he is from the same family that Khem Singh bedi was …a self declared hindu in the ID of kesadhari Sikh.

    So much for anyrogi and his waroped mentality.This is no gossip, we are quite happy to share the said photo graphs.

  4. Harvinder dinh …It looks line you have asbergers syndrome ”
    or simply do i not understand english enough .where from are you makibg up ur own stories..I stronky suspect you really hsve no clue what you are talking sbt….where do u imagine these weird idead from…..Or is it that anorogi guided you to say …But by flute if bad jingoist luck…You still mske a mess of saying whatever you try to day??

    Sad,you waste a lot of time trying to say rubbish

  5. What more can be expected of Dr. Anurag singh if he is eulogy sing the Vedas and considering them part of Sikhism..his own daughter observes Karwa Chauth vrat..he has no clue about the Sikh dharam to even allow this in his family..I know the family hence the above claim 🙁

  6. Harvinderjit Singh jio. Gurfateh Ji.

    How did you conclude that Guru Gobind Singh Ji is OUT? Do you also think that Guru Hargobind Sahib ji, Guru Har Rai Sahib Ji and Guru Har Kishan Sahib Ji are also OUT simply because they, too, do not even have one word in Sri Guru Granth Sahib (SGGS). Why only Guru Gobind Singh is counted as OUT?

    You ask if what the Guru Sahib had done no longer counts.

    Again, I beg to differ. Are we suggesting that whatever the other three Guru Sahibs mentioned above also don’t count? Guru Har Gobind Sahib Ji fought four wars, established the Miri Piri, the Akal Takht. Guru Har Rai ji had 2,000 cavalry with him at all times. Guru Har Kishan Ji did a lot of humanitarian work. All dismiised simply because they didn’t write any Gurbani? Is writing Gurbani the one and on criteria to judge if a Guru is OUT or IN? If that be the case, then we have GURUS who wrote thousands of shabds, rightly called as BANI KA BOHITHA (Ship of Gurbani), and some wrote just a few saloks. Some Gurus wrote in few raags, others wrote in 30 raags. One wrote in 31 Raags. Are we going to sit down and assess them as D-, C+, B, B+, A+, etc?

    You are missing the point all together. If you read in depth the SGGS, you will realise why Guru Nanak ji collected, copied and kept Bhagat Bani. Guru Arjun Sahib Ji gave these banis equal status as the Guru Sahibans’ who wrote Gurbani. It’s because the beginning is in SGGS. The AAD is there and the complete circle also within SGGS. The 10 human (deh) Gurus, the 35 other mahapurash in SGGS, are at the exact same level as far as Gurmat principles are concerned. None lower, none higher. We matha tek (bow) to the ONE AAD SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI as the PRESENT GURU. It is ampooran sarab kala samraath, not lacking in any thing.

    Understand this and you will see that the kakaars, kesh, dastaar, kacherah, kirpan, karrah, the warrior the saint, the Miri the Piri, are all in the COMPLETE SARB KALA SAMRAATH GURU SGGS.

    Tell me which Guru, which bhagat is not brave? Which Guru or bhagat does not speake the truth? Which Guru is not honouring his kesh? Which Guru is afraid to voice out against tyranny? Which Guru is calling Rajeh Sheen the mukaddam kutteh? Which Bhagat is calling for Gagan Damama Bajio, soormahs (warriors) fighting ‘Larreh deen jo het’, with sounds of war drums, swords clashing?

    You do not hear it within SGGS?

    When Humayun drew his sword to cut off Guru Angad Sahib Ji’s head, Guru Sahib told him: Coward, where was this sword when you were running away from Sher Shah Suri.

    I see the sword that Guru Angad Ji is carrying. Can you not? You think Humayun took pity and sheathed his sword? That he was afraid of killing a saint, a holy man? No. He was afraid of the sword he saw in the Guru’s hand! The sword many Sikhs can’t see. They feel the Gurus are timid, holy men in cholas.

    Guru Nanak ji faced off Babbar, the most feared emperor at his time. Guru Ji called the kings butchers, the servants dogs, to their face. Do you now see the sword Guru Nanak?

    A 7-year old boy, in full sanggat (congregation), refuses to wear the janaeau. He tells the pandit off. Now, do you see the warrior in Guru Nanak? The same teenager refuses to go around the Vedic fire at his wedding, gets a wall pushed on to him. Is this not a warrior? The man who travels the jungles, deserts, goes to Mecca, Hardwaar to preach the truth. Is this not a true warrior?

    Teg Mall is a Hindu Sikh? All those who won the wars on Guru Hargobind Ji’s side are all Hindu Sikhs? The 2,000 horse riding soldiers of Guru Har Rai ji were Hindu Sikhs? If we use that “definition”, then I suppose all those kirpan wielding horse riding bhang taking nihungs, huge turbanned chola wearing sants, 12,000 villages in Punjab with 50,000 sants in deras, etc, are all Sikh-Sikhs. And ONLY they qualify to be SIKH-SIKHS. The rest are Hindu Sikh?

    Guru Gobind Singh Ji is the same jyot (light) as that of AAD GURU JYOT that is Guru Nanak. To try and separate him is a “crime”. Many anti-Sikhs have tried to do the same to Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji. They claimed that the Sixth Guru had changed the direction, that he turned the peaceful Sikhs into warriors. That is the thrust of the fallacious fake book called Gurbilas Patshai Chhevin. It failed. Same conspiracy being carried out on Guru Gobind Singh Ji: To cut him out and put him in a separate form from the Guru Jyot. Whatever Divine Message that Guru Nanak ji came with, Guru Gobind Singh ji implemented it 100%, just as the other Gurus before him. The NANAK CHHAAP proves this point beyond doubt. All Gurbani by the Guru jyot carries this distinct chaap (signature).

    Do not betray the One, the AAD GURU. 1469-1708. The Khalsa was revealed on the Parkash Divas of Guru Nanak ji to prove only one point: that the divine mission for which Guru Nanak Ji came to this earth was completed in 1699. Guru Nanak ji is the FOUNDER father of the Khalsa. And this same AAD JYOT is in SGGS.

  7. So this automatically put guru gobind singh out of sikhi !!!!!
    Which means ….
    1) guru gobind Singh not a guru because no writing of his in sggsji Maharaj
    2)so what ever guruji did does not count ….now people already questioning (a) is there such thing as amrit. (b) are you sure the kekey’s given by guru gobind singh did actually give (C) that means there is no such thing as Khalsa. (C) it also means there is no such thing as Singh’s and Kaur’s (d) that means the story or autobiography means nothing (d) that means every thing that guruji did outside of sggsji maharaj means nothing ……… so my understanding of this guy!s is that they are Sikh following sikhi during the time of guru Nanak in shot I call them HINDU SIKHS … even thou dass believe in the Ek granth , ek maryada,ek panth but this guys are totally out of context …… dass not a scholar

  8. Dr. Karminder Singh Ji well done. In addition Guru Arjan Dev Ji had rejected the words of the 4 other Bhagats Pilu, Chhaju, Shah Husein and another who had come to ask for their compositions to be included. This is clear proof that only Sachi Bani is in SGGS the only Guru. All outside compositions have been rejected by the Gurus. In 1705 Guru Gobind Singh Ji added ONLY Guru Tej Bahadur Ji ‘s Bani and then in 1708 passed on the Guruship to SGGS. Time to stop the twisting.

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