| Opinion | 25 June 2016 | Asia Samachar |
GURMUKH SINGH: The main forte of Dr Karminder’s opinion is that Gobind Rai was only of 9 years of age. Surely Gobind Rai was not “obsessing” over women that Guru Tegh Bahadur ji felt it necessary to mete out that advise?
The semantics are largely unnecessary. Child engagements were common place. So were marriages (heck ..my late Dhadhiji was married at 15).
Was Gobind Rai a naive adolescent that the commenter might like us to believe? I think not. At that age Gobind Rai took over the reins of the entire panth. I personally find nothing taboo about this advise which is ..Be true to your spouse. That is the message (which is ignored). Instead the focal attack is on “bed”.
As to the comment about the absence of the word “father” in that pankti, Dr Karminder is correct. The word deployed is “Gur”..i.e. my Guru imparted this advise upon myself. And Gobind Rai’s Guru was? Bingo. Guru Tegh Bahadur ji. His father. The extrapolation was therefore accurate. I fail however to see the great “trickery” in this.
The rest of the commentary is about Charitro Pakhyan being stories about women. Same old, same old. Oft commented.
KARMINDER SINGH: Your response is based on the assumption that Guru Gobind Singh ji is the author of that couplet. With this assumption then GUR is bingo as father.
My assertion is that your assumption is wrong and unproven. Guru Gobind Singh is not the author. He cannot be – given the debased nature of Chitro Pakhyan . He has to be MADE OUT to be the author with a large stretch of the imagination and with lots of twisted justifications.
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Chitro Pakyan is 1/3 of DG and has 400 tales over 577 pages of of debauchery: of a girl killing her parents to have sex with her lover, of un-natural acts, of drug and liqueur fuelled rendezvous, of hair cutting, of incest etc etc. The list is as long as it is depraved.
To dismiss all these as SAME OLD SAME OLD is a defective response that will never be acceptable to thinking Sikhs and Guru loving Sikhs.”
GURMUKH: RISE ABOVE LITERAL
GURMUKH SINGH: I think the dichotomy between believers and non-believers of Sri Dasam Granth will remain regardless of meritocracy on either side. That to me is quite alright as long as the dichotomy does not result in a discord of a disuniting kind.
The basis for the disbelief that Charitropakhyan is Guru ji’s rachna stems from the perceived notion that the subject matter dealt therein is of a taboo or otherwise morally repulsive type. Well, yes. If you effect a literal and simplistic translation.
It is firstly inaccurate to say that only “viles” of women is dealt with. Virtues inherent in many a historical woman are also alluded to in several Chariters. Eg. That of Dhropti, of Maharani Keyikei and numerous others.
Then, of course, the issue of all that Vice known as Kaam Vashna is dissected and exposed in every permutation possible. Treat this as a prophecy of kinds if you like. All of the “despicable” or objectionable scenarios which virtuos men like yourselves object to, are a given ..a norm today. When a man’s lust exceeds permissible boundaries, he falters. He becomes Balaatkari. His spiritual growth is rendered nugatory. Similarly a lady is converted into a Genka (dealt with in SGGS ji & Varaan of Bhai Gurdas).
A virtuos lady is a Suchejji. The opposite is termed Kuchejji. The attributes of both are found in SGGS ji & in elaborate detail in Dasam Granth. You may have also come across Shabads such as Kusudh; Kulakhni; Kunaar in SGGS ji. Tria Chariter is but an exposition of this.
It surprises me that, we, the people of today are expressing disdain over what is written in Charitropakhyan whence the various permutations expressed therein are today’s happenings. On a daily basis, in fact. You will not appreciate this if you suffer from an inability to read beyond the sexual content. Rise above your baser senses.
I have also read views condemning the author of this rachna for belittling or ridiculing religious and honourable people. Priests. Saints if you like. Why make these people also fallible and vulnerable to this vice, they say. Guruji has warned in Charitropakhyan that even “Sadhs” will not be spared of this vice. I see this happening in our religion. Heck on our shores. I know of Nanaksari Rascally Babas who commit heinous sexual crimes within the precincts of their deras. Check out the reported miscreant Babay on YouTube. My Guru has in Charitropakhyan dealt and forewarned of all of this and more.
I know of a local parcharak (preacher) who has the outward trappings of a Sadh. He wears a long chola. No pijama. Goes to houses. Does Sukhmani Ardas, etc, at no cost to the family. Member of a (prominent) local sanstha. He is also a professional. How nice. He, however, has a trail of allegations of sexual harassment at his previous and current workplace. How do I know this? Because I recently rendered a legal opinion to his company. As to whether a show cause/D.I is advised. I was dismayed. My Guru has foretold this however.
Mind you, we men are especially vulnerable to this vice, staggeringly more than to the other vices. All of us are. Without exception. One who claims perfect control over this vice is a perfect hypocrit. Great sages have faltered. As did Bhai Joga. Guruji has removed all mystery or “gaga-gugu” that surrounds “taboo” topics such as drug abuse, unnatural sex acts, extra marital sex and the like. Someone speaks to you of (eg) anal sex, you would feign repulsion. Someone speaks to me of it, I would “Yes. So? My Cool Dad Guru Gobind Singh has educated me.”
My dear and very learned brothers, if you pride yourselves in being “thinking” Sikhs, well and good. I implore you to additionally be discerning thinkers. Each Chariter has a moral message. Rise above literal and simplistic translations and you will truly appreciate the deeply caring and holistically educative Father, that is Guru Gobind Singh.
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